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#1 2011-05-25 06:51:40

silverc
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Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

Origin's on and because I'm not able to talk while it's on I may as well do something else.

Have been thinking lately bout the best things to have for not only SHTF items but products that are long lasting, alternative and do the same or better than regular items.

Currently I have a few:

- Rainwater tank only 5000L and has been full for the last 6 months

- Everything we use for camping - gas, solar showers, water storage, led lights, batteries, solar panel, inverter, 3 way fridge, air pots (hot water storage) - wondering how long we could last with this

- Crystal Deodorant - around 8 bucks, I have had the current stick for about 8 months. May not be essential but ladies sure appreciate no BO

- Laundry wash balls - long lasting - but not for long term use - an off smell seems to develop - alternating with supermarket product

- I have pigeon peas growing http://www.tropicalpermaculture.com/pigeon-pea.html

- sprouter for seeds

- lots of seeds stored

I'm sure I have more

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#2 2011-05-25 06:56:07

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

MatrixOpals wrote:
silverc wrote:

Wash balls

Shouldn't you wash balls whether SHTF or not?  hmm

/added
Much of what you had expressed is what I accumulate too. Trying to cover many bases. Having the mindset of camping equipment is good.

Im pretty sure silver c is a woman MO lol


i used to be disgusted now im just amused

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#3 2011-05-25 06:58:52

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

MatrixOpals wrote:

Maybe their son's or husbands? Everyone knows men don't wash their hands when they go to the toilet.  wink

Yeah who needs to wash their hands when Silver has anti bacterial properties am I right?

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#4 2011-05-25 06:59:20

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

Toilet paper is a big requirement.


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#5 2011-05-25 06:59:45

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

Edited to say "Laundry wash balls" - for the washing machine - for the uneducated.

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#6 2011-05-25 07:06:23

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

boston wrote:

Toilet paper is a big requirement.

Yep was gonna add 64 rolls of loo paper at any time.

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#7 2011-05-25 07:08:49

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

MatrixOpals wrote:

Maybe their son's or husbands? Everyone knows men don't wash their hands when they go to the toilet.  wink


And I wish they would!!

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#8 2011-05-25 07:09:30

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

What's this Crystal deodorant thing all about?


Specialisation is for insects

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#9 2011-05-25 07:09:53

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

silverc, the forum below discusses this topic ad nauseum - you might pick up some ideas from it.

http://forum.weatherzone.com.au/ubbthre … Post565407


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#10 2011-05-25 07:19:11

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

Clawhammer wrote:

What's this Crystal deodorant thing all about?


Price is way less in this link than what I pay in local chemist
http://www.naturalhealthorganics.com.au … r-456.html

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#11 2011-05-25 07:27:49

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

mmm....shiney! wrote:

silverc, the forum below discusses this topic ad nauseum - you might pick up some ideas from it.

http://forum.weatherzone.com.au/ubbthre … Post565407

Techni ice looks good - we use it at meals on wheels. Must check it out

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#12 2011-05-25 07:54:50

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

Feminine hygiene products.


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#13 2011-05-25 08:05:07

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

silverc wrote:

Techni ice looks good - we use it at meals on wheels. Must check it out

Sounds like some stuff we used to use back in the 80's


Specialisation is for insects

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#14 2011-05-25 08:10:54

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

silverc wrote:
MatrixOpals wrote:

Maybe their son's or husbands? Everyone knows men don't wash their hands when they go to the toilet.  wink


And I wish they would!!

Kyle: You don't wash your hands after going to the bathroom?
Stan: Not... all the time!
Kyle: That is gross!
Stan: Why? It's not like you're peeing on your hands. There's more germs on most furniture then there is in pee.
Butters: Yeah. If anything you should wash your hands before you touch your wiener.


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#15 2011-05-25 08:22:03

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

Bible, hand held water purifier, Rice, silver, jim beam, honey, boots... sorry to get back on topic tongue


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#16 2011-05-25 08:43:12

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

thatguy wrote:

Bible, hand held water purifier, Rice, silver, jim beam, honey, boots... sorry to get back on topic tongue

Put a silver coin in the water container to purify the water.


Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak...

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#17 2011-05-25 08:44:35

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

boston wrote:
thatguy wrote:

Bible, hand held water purifier, Rice, silver, jim beam, honey, boots... sorry to get back on topic tongue

Put a silver coin in the water container to purify the water.

That worries me - silver might have anti-bacterial properties, but that doesn't mean that it will actually purify water. It won't remove impurities even if it does kill some bacteria.

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#18 2011-05-25 08:54:55

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

Dwayne wrote:
boston wrote:
thatguy wrote:

Bible, hand held water purifier, Rice, silver, jim beam, honey, boots... sorry to get back on topic tongue

Put a silver coin in the water container to purify the water.

That worries me - silver might have anti-bacterial properties, but that doesn't mean that it will actually purify water. It won't remove impurities even if it does kill some bacteria.

During the great plagues in Europe, the peasants died in the millions, but the nobility by and large survived, and not just through self imposed isolation. Apparently, I have been told recently, it was because they used to drink from silver goblets which killed most of the bubonic germs. True or not, there appears to be something to it.


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#19 2011-05-25 11:12:41

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

Get yourself some bushtucker food and medicine book's, there is a chemist and grocery stall just down the road for everyone if they know where to look, maybe even in your own back yard. Get yourself some oldtime recipies for the local wildlife, Skippy and friends kept many alive back in the day.

Go and start feeding the local pigeons and ducks in a nearby park, they might pay back the favour sometime , take note of local springs or clean mountain fed creeks in your area , orchards, fruit tree's, etc.

There is lots of stuff you dont need to store, just how to use.

#20 2011-05-25 16:33:28

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

boston wrote:

Feminine hygiene products.

LOL No longer necessary

In the past however I had them stashed everywhere had this fear of being caught without them due to natural disaster

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#21 2011-05-25 19:52:28

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

Clawhammer wrote:
silverc wrote:

Techni ice looks good - we use it at meals on wheels. Must check it out

Sounds like some stuff we used to use back in the 80's

LOL In the eighties sexism was cool ha, that chick on the bike was hot, probably somebodies gran now cool


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#22 2011-05-26 02:49:17

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

Sorry, bubonic plague is caused by flea bits of infected fleas. The rich survived because they were isolated in the main from the squalor and flea breeding rats below. It would be worth your head if the noble found a rat in the living room.

Cleansing wipes - antibacterial and plain. Double up in an airtight container vacuum sealed so they don't dry out.
A very good jumbo medicine kit.
ditto on Boston's suggestion- and pads not tampons - convenience not worth the potential health risk when the grid goes down.

Actually I think in Australia if you have a month's camping trip put away and two months food you're covered for droughts, flooding rains and oil strikes. If there isn't some semblance of order in that time you'll have been airfreighted out of wherever it is (or herded into a camp!)

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#23 2011-05-26 06:13:09

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

STACK DICE!
Yes, dice.  Be very bullish on dice.  Post nuke holocaust/SHTF people will soon feel withdrawal symptoms from a lack of random number generation.  In the future there will be a recognised Au:Die ratio and the little cubes will be very much in demand.  Playing cards will fetch a nice price during trades, but dice are the end game's end game.


For trading:
coffee, tea, tobacco, ammo, knives, swiss army knives.

For hammering stuff or cutting very thick rope:
2 sledge hammers, 8 lb'ers oughtta do it.  Make sure you got some hard-core pegs and rope.  After all, if you've got sledges, you may as well have pegs and rope.  Can't tie a hitch?  Better learn.

Handy thing:
those recharging torches w/the built in winder that also comes with 6 phone adapters or so... 6 bucks from kmart i think.
don't wind them too fast while the torch is switched on or you burn out the LED lites...  ( trust me )

Other stuff flowing off the top of my head:
get a parabolic mic... and then tell me if they're as much fun as I suspect.  $35 eBay
brita water filter and many cartridges

Of course this is all useless unless you build a tower worthy of SHTF.
You don't need to go all out Circe or Babel, just out there in the bush, made from good solid stone and mortar, no doorway opening at ground level or more, just go the pulley type elevator thing and a 3rd floor entrance.  Get some of them Israeli 3rd generation solar panels (Zennith i think ??) on the roof of the tower, and parapets are a must.

Anyone know if there are any recipie books written for cooking 'barking geckos'?  There will be no shortage of em here in QLD, even after food runs out, but you will need light to attract the bugs that attract the geckos!  <---  see above pointer re: recharging torch

If you forget everything except for 1 thing, remember to stack the dice.

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How did I cook up the name "Silver Natural 9" you might ask?  Let me explain it for you.
In the game of Baccarat, either side with the score of Natural 9 cannot lose.
That is how I feel about silver.  Whichever side has a score measured in silver: cannot lose.
   -SN9

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#24 2011-05-26 07:02:23

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

Incase you missed it the 1st time:


Silver Natural 9 wrote:

STACK DICE!
dice are the end game's end game.


How did I cook up the name "Silver Natural 9" you might ask?  Let me explain it for you.
In the game of Baccarat, either side with the score of Natural 9 cannot lose.
That is how I feel about silver.  Whichever side has a score measured in silver: cannot lose.
   -SN9

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#25 2011-05-26 07:04:06

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Re: Origin's on - top long lasting or SHTF products

MatrixOpals wrote:
Silver Natural 9 wrote:

STACK DICE!

I shyt you not; I was just conversing with my mate we should stack dice, cards and boardgames only approx 40 minutes ago.
We were envisioning what people would of done for entertainment during calamities and times of strife/hard-times. The mentioned came to our mind.

1) Dice.
2) Cards.
3) Marbles and pet rocks. big_smile
4) Board games.


Matrix, we should start working on the 'Dice Stackers' forums.


How did I cook up the name "Silver Natural 9" you might ask?  Let me explain it for you.
In the game of Baccarat, either side with the score of Natural 9 cannot lose.
That is how I feel about silver.  Whichever side has a score measured in silver: cannot lose.
   -SN9

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