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#76 2017-02-08 22:45:45

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

SpacePete wrote:
Ipv6Ready wrote:

From what I gather they had capacity to produce more... but

no gas, so gas generator couldn't increase power
coal well that's dirty, and they closed it.
Interconnector was at full capacity

Plainly SA is living the renewal energy dream,

cheap and clean or no electricity.

They had the gas according to the news. Are there any update with further details?


I don't know, the DC are run by our NOC staff, we have 20 DC around the countries of various sizes, but from what I gather SA is the only one where they get asked to turn on the generator by the authorities.

Though having said that to be fair, during some really hot days, we might run our generators out of schedule and export power to the grid when it is close to scheduled testing (due to shelf life) but it was always our decision, not something we get asked to do.


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#77 2017-02-08 22:56:20

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

It is curious, why they would leave generation powered off.

Just maybe they are talking about other small generators that are owned by other companies that are licenced power generators but don't operate as power company.


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#78 2017-02-08 22:56:49

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

The thing that makes me laugh is all the debate & reasons why it happened .What about this ? it was probably this  why didnt they do this or that ? All smokesrceens for you guys to debate when the answer is simple  .

Its obvious they dont have enough power to run the state no amount of discussion or reasons will fix it .

Only generating more or more storage can


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#79 2017-02-09 01:08:37

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

yeah its becoming stupid these days - if its too hot or too stormy power goes down and its almost like there is a 1 in 50 year storm monthly every month now
they need to put something in place or try to fix this issue

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#80 2017-02-09 01:46:04

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

Yikes, buy some ice, as AEMO are saying they might cut power again tonight


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#81 2017-02-09 02:28:44

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

LOL. SA trying to blame-shift, rather than power-shift.  The trouble with Leftists and those generally aligned with Labor side is that they do not understand math, reason, logic and facts. 

Renewables only took hold because of the great big fat lie of dangerous global warming being caused by carbon dioxide emissions.

Renewables are expensive to build, run and maintain so that they require intense tax payer dollars.

SA blew up a base load power station in the name of the 'global warming' religion.

Anyone with a remote familiarity with math, reason, logic and science would not have gone down this path.

Please discuss amongst yourselves.


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#82 2017-02-09 02:34:49

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

SA did consider another renewable energy source that is in abundance from VIC "Methane"

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#83 2017-02-09 02:37:27

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

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SA did consider another renewable energy source that is in abundance from VIC "Methane"

Canberra has been pumping out a lot of that today.


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#84 2017-02-09 02:51:35

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

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First world country in 2017 & cant supply constant power ?. What a joke SA has become.
Idiots in power closing power stations & wont contribute the $ to federal guv to rectify it  ...tightass dickheads listen to the greens too much .

Alternative power is great until.......

They have no one to blame but themselves ...morons


yep, no one to blame but them dumb selves. Let them boil in todays hot weather with no air con.

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#85 2017-02-09 02:53:50

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

I was a talking to a Leftist friend a couple of weeks ago about electricity and she is firmly on the hard Left with regards renewables. We discussed SA and I asked her how renewables can meet base load power requirements for the state on windless nights. She said "what is base load?"

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#86 2017-02-09 03:35:50

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

could happen in sydney tomorrow apparently.

NSW faces potential power shortages during the coming heatwave, prompting the electricity market operator to demand additional supply.

The demand, issued on Thursday morning by Australian Energy Markets Operator (AEMO), comes after the agency triggered rolling power cuts in South Australia on Wednesday evening as the mercury hovered near 40 degrees.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/energy/w … u8rv5.html

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#87 2017-02-09 03:56:57

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

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could happen in sydney tomorrow apparently.

NSW faces potential power shortages during the coming heatwave, prompting the electricity market operator to demand additional supply.

The demand, issued on Thursday morning by Australian Energy Markets Operator (AEMO), comes after the agency triggered rolling power cuts in South Australia on Wednesday evening as the mercury hovered near 40 degrees.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/energy/w … u8rv5.html

This is Scott Morrison's fault for stealing our NSW coal and bringing it to show-and-tell in parliament today!

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#88 2017-02-09 04:34:29

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

We have all the energy we need and a shed load more

Our elected representatives posture and frolic like fairies.

Too bad for us they are involved in the process of giving us reliable dirt, literally dirt cheap energy

It will be looked at in a hundred years as yet another great example of how stupid becomes the rule of the day with our species

Lord save us. It is not that we don't have the resource, the drive, the tech, the finance to do this.

Leftists are the zealots of old, the zealous religious instinct finding itself bathing in Gaia piety.

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#89 2017-02-09 08:21:36

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

Tbh I dont know why someone hasnt invented a half decent wave generator yet ... yes the sun may not always shine, nor the wind always blow, but there are always waves (and in their absence, tidal flows).

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#90 2017-02-09 17:06:28

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

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Tbh I dont know why someone hasnt invented a half decent wave generator yet ... yes the sun may not always shine, nor the wind always blow, but there are always waves (and in their absence, tidal flows).

They do exist but to be useful need to be built on a very large  scale and as close ass practical to cililization.
And this is the problem, the same people that want us to use renewable "clean" energy DO NOT WANT to have their beach views upset.
We have several wind generation plants over in central Otago and could do with more BUT the greenies are going crazy because it can kill birds in flight and some lizards are being displaced.
I am all for looking after the diversity of our environment but i have the good sense to know that sacrifices have to be made if we want to really get ahead.
I am happy to sacrifice and wipe out a breed of lizard or bird or mammal for that matter if it means cheaper cleaner power that enhances the human life and assists in our long term survival.
I know this view is not shared by a lot of people ,but in my view people are always going to be important  MORE than ANY animal.

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#91 2017-02-09 17:13:41

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

Au-mageddon wrote:

Tbh I dont know why someone hasnt invented a half decent wave generator yet ... yes the sun may not always shine, nor the wind always blow, but there are always waves (and in their absence, tidal flows).


Geo thermal is the way because it is an inexhaustible safe generator of electricity. Only problem is they got to figure out how to dig the drill holes deeper so that practically anywhere can tap into it.

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#92 2017-02-09 17:46:16

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

double post

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#93 2017-02-09 17:46:49

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

Now they are saying they may have rotating power cuts in NSW . WTF is going on in this country ?

Vic is shutting down another power station soon aswell .

IMO they need to put the brakes on any further power stations going offline until they have reliable alternatives.


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#94 2017-02-09 23:55:20

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

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Now they are saying they may have rotating power cuts in NSW . WTF is going on in this country ?

Vic is shutting down another power station soon aswell .

IMO they need to put the brakes on any further power stations going offline until they have reliable alternatives.

You're drifting towards socialism there Renovator.


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#95 2017-03-10 03:54:22

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

If only they would even think of considering it...

Elon Musk, the billionaire founder of electric car giant Tesla, has thrown down a challenge to the South Australian and federal governments, saying he can solve the state's energy woes within 100 days – or he'll deliver the 100MW battery storage system for free.

On Thursday, Lyndon Rive, Tesla's vice-president for energy products, told the AFR the company could install the 100-300 megawatt hours of battery storage that would be required to prevent the power shortages that have been causing price spikes and blackouts in the state.

Mike Cannon-Brookes, the Australian co-founder of Silicon Valley startup Atlassian, on Friday tweeted Elon Musk, asking if Tesla was serious about being able to install the capacity.

Musk replied that the company could do it in 100 days of the contract being signed, or else provide it free, adding: "That serious enough for you?"

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#96 2017-03-10 05:13:02

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

But South Australia doesn't have an electricity problem so what's to solve? Windmills have already given them a perfect energy source.

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#97 2017-03-10 05:55:45

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

hmmm, 100MW of storage? don't you need to generate some energy to store?


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#98 2017-03-10 06:26:29

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

Publicity stunt by Musk and the greens senator getting some exposure out of it too.

For govt it would have to go out to tender and that would take 100 days alone!  No doubt Musk will have a big (unpalatable) bill for taxpayers in mind too.

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#99 2017-03-10 07:01:04

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

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Publicity stunt by Musk and the greens senator getting some exposure out of it too.

For govt it would have to go out to tender and that would take 100 days alone!  No doubt Musk will have a big (unpalatable) bill for taxpayers in mind too.

It's absolutely a publicity stunt, but it's not an empty one: Musk can and would follow through with it just to prove it can be done (and he'd do it cheap for the same reason).

It's only as complicated as the politicians want it to be. I've had an Uninterruptible Power Supply (a battery) sitting between my PC and the wall socket for more than a decade. Gives me 15 minutes of reserve power in case there's a blackout and takes the hit from surges so my computer doesn't get fried.

Tesla's setup is the same thing, just with a much bigger battery.


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#100 2017-03-10 08:11:13

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Re: All South Australia without Electricity!!!!!

Big A.D. wrote:

Tesla's setup is the same thing, just with a much bigger battery.

Tesla is also doing house battery backup for solar panels, so that you can get off the electrical grid altogether.

I asked my electrician what would be involved with setting up my home so we could use my power coming from my solar cells during a blackout .. the answer is you can install a switch setup, but because they dont want any possibility of back feed into the power lines, the power company red tape and hence cost is ridiculous.

Similarly I asked one of these solar cell + battery selling companies, what would be involved with augmenting my 1.5KW solar system with a battery backup in case of blackouts .. i was told it was too hard and these solar + battery systems are designed to take people off-grid not augment the power from the grid.

As a result have said stuff it and bought a 3kW full sinusoidal generator off ebay for just over $500 and with a power board and a few extension cords will at least be able to keep the fridge and freezer, tv and computer running next time theres a blackout, which shouldn't be long given the state of play here atm.

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