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#1 2016-09-02 13:08:35

DeusB
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Whisky --- Investment?

Hello


Like it says, what do you think?  is it worth it?

I mean buying some mid range whiskeys  from 30 - 80 €, could they get some value over time?

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#2 2016-09-02 13:51:54

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

Yes, but you need to research first so that you are not the newbie buying in at the top to fund the serious collectors. You must also like whisky so that you can drink your mistakes.


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#3 2016-09-02 14:38:12

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

A BIG initial investment though.

TP is better! Fill the roof cavity with it.  I have ~400 rolls up there. 

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#4 2016-09-02 16:19:36

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

What brands are you looking at?


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#5 2016-09-02 17:23:35

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

House wrote:

What brands are you looking at?

Sydney Morning Herald.


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#6 2016-09-02 17:43:49

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

Old Codger wrote:

A BIG initial investment though.

TP is better! Fill the roof cavity with it.  I have ~400 rolls up there. 

JMO

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I hope you're putting them in something first. Mice/rats don't give a shit if you have the best of plans, they'll destroy half of that in a weekend if they find it.

As to the original question, tequila might be a better investment. Apparently large amounts of the plant used to make tequila (or maybe certain types [ this is second hand information]) is dying out on mass due to a fungi or insect or something.

Maybe Google it to check on my rock solid information first. Haha. But the impression I was given was that real agave tequila might cease to exist if they don't find a solution.


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#7 2016-09-02 17:49:56

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

Our roof cavity has about 5 LARGE 'Ratsack' bait boxes up there.

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#8 2016-09-02 17:53:51

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

I don't think that's enough! I'm a sparky and I see brand new houses with baits and they still get damage to electrical cables from rats at times (they chew the insulation on the cabkes for some reason).

If it isn't in a hard case of some description I'd be very surprised if they didn't have nests in it within the year.


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#9 2016-11-11 09:32:06

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

Whisky does not age/mature so it should be a decent shtf investment as long as it's properly stored. I can't think of it being any other type of investment other than a shtf investment.

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#10 2016-11-11 10:05:30

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

I believe that many of the Bundaburg Rum special limited editions appreciate quite well in value.

EDIT: http://www.bundabergrumshowcase.com.au/top20.html

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#11 2016-11-11 17:22:29

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

I had gone down this path a few years ago investing in limited editions with negative results.

It is against the law to sell liquor without a liquor licence.

So the market is extremely limited, you can not advertise anywhere without the threat of legal action so you must use a licenced agent and they charge like a bull out of the gate or have a licenced friend that is in the liquor trade..................I ended up drinking my investment.

Cheers

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#12 2016-11-11 18:38:42

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

"It is against the law to sell liquor without a liquor licence."

Barter!

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#13 2016-11-11 23:42:07

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

Buy a barrel...

http://www.nant.com.au/barrel-offers/

More a low risk, fixed return rather than a big gain speculation.

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#14 2016-11-12 02:43:42

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

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#15 2016-11-12 03:04:48

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

whinfell wrote:

Not quite a scam, but certainly a more risky venture than I had previously thought.  A good idea, with poor execution....   Thanks for the heads up though.

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#16 2016-11-12 04:57:35

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

whinfell wrote:

I'm interested in this article but it's paywalled.  Could you copy a bit or give us the gist? 

I looked into Nant a while ago and it seemed there were a LOT of restrictions, weasel clauses and caveats in their offer.  The idea of committing $10-30k for a decent promised return but questionable risk status didn't grab me.

(Edit: nevermind, I've found other sources)

A good idea, with poor execution....

Yes, that would sum up the whole of Nant's business, judging by these links:

http://www.smh.com.au/business/whisky-f … mmb4f.html

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/ba … 07615e667b

Looks like the whole enterprise is all about one man's greed.. and ego.

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#17 2016-11-12 05:08:24

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

You can also invest in Nant Angus (cattle) and get the same 9.55% return on your investment - supposedly roll  Note that the 9.55% return is the same as the return on the whisky - I smell bullshit.

http://www.nantangus.com.au/your-investment/

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#18 2016-11-12 05:11:52

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

Another article on the Nant whisky scheme scam: http://www.drinkscentral.com.au/4751?Article=2206

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#19 2016-11-12 05:34:48

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

HoldMeTender wrote:
whinfell wrote:

I'm interested in this article but it's paywalled.  Could you copy a bit or give us the gist? 

I looked into Nant a while ago and it seemed there were a LOT of restrictions, weasel clauses and caveats in their offer.  The idea of committing $10-30k for a decent promised return but questionable risk status didn't grab me.

(Edit: nevermind, I've found other sources)

A good idea, with poor execution....

Yes, that would sum up the whole of Nant's business, judging by these links:

http://www.smh.com.au/business/whisky-f … mmb4f.html

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/ba … 07615e667b

Looks like the whole enterprise is all about one man's greed.. and ego.

Same, was considering it until the lawyer pointed out a few things and suggested running a mile. Thanks for the links Whinfell.


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#20 2016-11-12 06:20:20

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

I bought a bottle of blue label johnnies when my boy was born with the intention of opening it on his 21st. Up to my 10th replacement bottle. He's 9..


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#21 2016-11-12 06:30:11

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

STC wrote:

I bought a bottle of blue label johnnies when my boy was born with the intention of opening it on his 21st. Up to my 10th replacement bottle. He's 9..

You need more sons wink

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#22 2016-11-12 13:46:28

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Re: Whisky --- Investment?

"You can also invest in Nant Angus (cattle) and get the same 9.55% return on your investment - supposedly roll  Note that the 9.55% return is the same as the return on the whisky - I smell bullshit."


As an innocent young lad in the bank in 1955 I had my first lesson in investing from my Manager.  He said,

"young codger, NEVER forget, the higher the gain, the greater the risk".

I have never fogotten it!

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