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#51 2014-11-12 16:39:49

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Re: asteroid mining?

Apparently some issues with it's anchoring on the comet. Some doubts about its ability to stay put on the 'soft' surface.


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#52 2014-11-20 20:01:44

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ORION - NASA's Deep Space Exploration Spacecraft - Explained in Detail

*1:21 Destinations - near earth asteroids, Moon, moons of Mars, Mars itself.

* 1:45 Multi-role and how it will be used - ISS, Moon etc.

*2:17 Can stay orbiting the moon un-attended.

*2:31 Components including deep space habitat.

*3:00 New manufacturing techniques - Self reaction friction stir welding system, 3D printing.

*3:21 Re-usable and up-gradable craft

*3:35 Heat Shield

*4:21 Heat shield - skeleton

*4:43 Heat shield - material Av-coat

*5:12 Heat shield designed to be consumed on re-entry.

*5:54 Radiation and debris (Space-junk) protection using AETB-8 Tiles.

*6:02 AETB-8 Tile

*6:33 Radiation - The Van Allen radiation belt and protection.

*7:45 Crew Capsule and capabilities.

*8:38 Images of the pressure vessel

*9:03 High-tech navigation sytems etc

*9:22 Glass cockpit digital control system / Boeing 787 multifunction colour display.

*9:35 Auto docking

*9:48 Service Module - Power and propulsion system.

*10:49 Images of the solar array

*11:12 Each array 6,000 watts of power.

*11:50 Deep Space Habitat

*12:21 Parachutes

*13:16 Launch Abort System

*14:05 The Space Launch System - Capabilities

*15:03 Landing on an Asteroid.

*15:13 Circle the moon by 2017

*15:19 Mars 2030's

*15:20 Landing on an Asteroid late 2020's.

*15:29 landing on an Asteroid next step before landing on Mars.

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#53 2014-12-05 17:06:37

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America's Newest Spacecraft - Orion launched Friday 05 December 2014.

Vid length 10 minutes 40 secs.

The mission is a test of the Orion capsule that could one day carry humans onto an asteroid and also take man to Mars.

Edited to include NASA's official youtube video.

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#54 2014-12-08 23:47:57

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The second Japanese mission directed to an asteroid: Hayabusa 2.

MASCOT - An asteroid lander.

In 2018 the Japanese Hayabusa 2 Mission will feature an asteroid landing and will, for the first time, allow for data acquisition at various points of this kind of celestial body, assisted by MASCOT (Mobile Asteroid Surface Scout), the hopping landing craft developed by the German Aerospace Center (Deutsches Zentrum für Luft- und Raumfahrt; DLR).

http://www.dlr.de/rb/en/desktopdefault. … ead-41247/

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The aim of JAXA (Japanese Space Agency) Hayabusa 2 mission is to approach a NEO C-type asteroid (1999 JU3) in order to:

*   first, from the orbit, carry out remote sensing observations of the asteroid,
*   second, on the asteroid itself, carry out experiments with the lander MASCOT (Mobile Asteroid Surface Scout)
*   third, take samples and bring them back to Earth.





03 December 2014 Perfect Launch

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#55 2014-12-11 05:34:10

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Australians Could Expect To See 30-40 Meteors An Hour During Geminid Shower On Dec 13-14

The peak of the Geminid Meteor Shower in 2014 would be on Dec 13 and 14, with Australians having the chance to see the shower of 30 to 40 meteors and hour. There would also be an occasional bright fireball that would light up the sky, said Perry Vlahos of the Astronomical Society of Victoria.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/574249/2 … IljdHub2tw

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#56 2015-02-05 08:45:24

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Re: asteroid mining?

SilverPete wrote:

Probably have to wait for nanotech to make this viable, but it would be great if we could mine, smelt and cast or press gold bars and coins in situ, then use an electric rail gun to fire off a stream of gold kangas towards earth where they would rain down upon us in a golden shower.

could you imagine? what in interesting idea you have there! lol

give me an umbrella and a burlap sack, im going in!

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#57 2015-02-25 07:46:04

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Ceres

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http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/ice-dwarf/en/

Ceres is now classified as a "dwarf planet,"

It may contain more subsurface water ice than all the fresh water on Earth, and its high gravity compared with other belt objects makes it one of the most suitable locations for a permanent base in the asteroid belt.

Ceres is the largest asteroid belt object, its gravity is still only less than 3 percent of Earth's gravity. Yet, Ceres is "one of the few asteroids you could probably walk around on.

Ceres has the diameter of Texas and the surface area of India.

NASA's Dawn spacecraft is expected to arrive in orbit around the dwarf planet on 06 March 2015  (9 days time).

http://www.space.com/28640-living-on-ce … -belt.html

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http://www.space.com/28640-living-on-ce … -belt.html

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#58 2015-04-06 21:19:16

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Since its capture by the gravity of dwarf planet Ceres on March 6, NASA's Dawn spacecraft has performed flawlessly, continuing to thrust with its ion engine as planned.

The thrust, combined with Ceres' gravity, is gradually guiding the spacecraft into a circular orbit around the dwarf planet.

All of the spacecraft's systems and instruments are in excellent health.


Progress:

April 10 and April 14 - The next optical navigation images of Ceres will be taken.

April 23 -  first science orbit and will begin the intensive prime science campaign.

By early May, images will improve our view of the entire surface, including the mysterious bright spots.

May 9, Dawn will complete its first Ceres science phase and begin to spiral down to a lower orbit to observe Ceres from a closer vantage point.

Dawn previously explored the giant asteroid Vesta for 14 months, from 2011 to 2012, capturing detailed images and data about that body.

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http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?f … 20150406-3


More info Dawn Mission:
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/

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#59 2015-04-15 21:59:20

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SpaceX CRS-6 First Stage Landing

Successful Landing - "Nearly" big_smile

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#60 2015-04-15 22:31:38

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Holdfast wrote:

SpaceX CRS-6 First Stage Landing

Successful Landing - "Nearly" big_smile

Michael Bay was the SpaceX Flight Director that day smile


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#61 2015-05-25 13:14:22

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US passes space mining bill

The US first drafted its first space mining focused bills in September last year, in order to promote the development of a commercial asteroid resources industry for outer space in the United States and to increase the exploration and utilisation of asteroid resources in outer space".

"Any asteroid resources obtained in outer space are the property of the entity that obtained such resources, which shall be entitled to all property rights thereto, consistent with applicable provisions of Federal law," the bill states.

Prior to this bill no legislation existed outlining the rights of companies to resources mined from asteroids, although the issue of lunar mining still remains a contentious one.

http://www.miningaustralia.com.au/news/ … ing-bill-1

ASTEROIDS Act

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-con … -bill/5063

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#62 2015-05-25 18:31:08

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Holdfast wrote:

US passes space mining bill

"Any asteroid resources obtained in outer space are the property of the entity that obtained such resources, which shall be entitled to all property rights thereto, consistent with applicable provisions of Federal law," the bill states.

Prior to this bill no legislation existed outlining the rights of companies to resources mined from asteroids, although the issue of lunar mining still remains a contentious one.

Governments attempting to regulate property rights for the rest of the universe...


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#63 2015-05-25 20:08:43

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Re: asteroid mining?

House can claim anything he finds out there now.
Happy metal-detecting.


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#64 2015-05-25 22:43:39

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Outer space is quite large.  Pretty sure all parties should be OK with this...

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#65 2015-05-26 00:33:17

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^^^
Considering nearly none of us own mines here on Earth and rely on large companies to do it all for us, shouldn't make any real difference to the way things are now.


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#66 2015-06-14 17:52:02

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Philae space probe, thought lost, comes to life on comet reviving Rosetta mission cool  smile

A robotic space lander has surprised scientists by waking up and sending a signal to Earth, seven months after straying into the shadows of a comet, where they feared it might be marooned for ever.

The European Space Agency said on Sunday it had received signals from the lander, named Philae, late on Thursday, when it began communicating with the team on the ground for the first time since it went into emergency hibernation after a botched landing on the comet in November.


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#67 2015-06-14 19:03:31

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Cool example how much can go wrong out there... The big news here is that a tiny fraction of a data packet made it back to earth for a few seconds of TX until the thing run out of power again.
Big Deal, I suppose.

I wonder how much more energy intensive mining would be when the experts can barely scrape together enough power to make a few experiments and send some garbled data back to earth.


Precious Metals ? That's just cashing in style...

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#68 2015-06-14 19:08:06

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Snoopy wrote:

Cool example how much can go wrong out there... The big news here is that a tiny fraction of a data packet made it back to earth for a few seconds of TX until the thing run out of power again.
Big Deal, I suppose.

I wonder how much more energy intensive mining would be when the experts can barely scrape together enough power to make a few experiments and send some garbled data back to earth.

The first heart transplant patients lasted hours to days, but now it is almost routine.
Same principle - first stand, then steps, eventually an Olympic runner???


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#69 2015-06-14 21:26:15

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We and our kids will all be long long gone before anyone starts starcrafting an asteroid. I cant believe this thread is still going and people are still talkig about it this.


There were more millionaires created during the Great Depression than any other time in history.

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#70 2015-06-14 21:28:03

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Same principle - first stand, then steps, eventually an Olympic runner???

Fair enough, and your time frame on this is what ?

Besides we are awash in PM such as the prices suggest.

Barbaric relict it is.... who would want some of it anyway.


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#71 2015-06-15 02:40:27

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^^^
Imagine the souvenir premium on "asteroid gold" coins smile
Do well on eBay, I think.


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#72 2015-06-15 05:09:18

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ego2spare wrote:

We and our kids will all be long long gone before anyone starts starcrafting an asteroid. I cant believe this thread is still going and people are still talkig about it this.

See post 29. wink

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Holdfast wrote:
ego2spare wrote:

We and our kids will all be long long gone before anyone starts starcrafting an asteroid. I cant believe this thread is still going and people are still talkig about it this.

See post 29. wink

i see your "post 29" and raise u this image

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and ill go ALL IN with this article with the headline
"Chief NASA Scientist Predicts We'll Discover Aliens by 2025"

http://www.people.com/article/nasa-pred … alien-life



here are some other "doozies" lol that im sure were all discussed at one point with the same seriousness that we are all discussing this topic.

http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_777_ … ut-future/


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#74 2015-06-15 17:20:01

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^^^^
There is still a "flat earth society" - perhaps you should join???
A sensible, apparently sane, apparently intelligent, Associate Professor of Chemistry I know believes that crocodiles prove that evolution is a fantasy and that the universe is created by his God. There is no "arguing" with some people. I also know some people who still believe that the moon landings took place on a sound stage - where do you stand on that?
It's a good thing that the off-spring of deniers are not prevented from reaping the rewards of the dreamers, else there's be some serious gnashing of teeth - imagine all the people who wouldn't be allowed to use radios or TVs or motor cars or electricity, even.
The future is always in doubt until it happens - up till then it is in the hands of dreamers.


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#75 2015-06-15 17:35:16

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Harvesting of precious metals from metallic asteroids.

Platinum group metals are some of the most rare and useful elements on Earth.

They exist in such high concentrations on asteroids that a single 500-meter platinum-rich asteroid can contain more platinum group metals than have ever been mined in human history.

And despite their high costs, platinum group metals are so useful that 1 of 4 industrial goods on Earth require them in production.

http://www.planetaryresources.com/aster … for-metals


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