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#1 2012-02-15 20:28:51

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New Dragon - Privy Mark

Hi,

there is a new 2012 BU Dragon with a special privy mark. Mintage 200.000 pcs. Looks like PM want to destroy collectors market
with another kind of Dragons. Offered in Germany for 34,49  -  http://www.silber-corner.de/index.php?p … &info=1098

I think a lot of poeple that paid a lot of money for their Dragons could be angry about PM decision to blow the mintage. sad

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#2 2012-02-15 20:36:13

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

Is that a Perth Mint applied privy mark or aftermarket?

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#3 2012-02-15 20:37:15

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

Ugly the way the Perth Mint twists the truth, misleads and treats as fools its own customers.

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#4 2012-02-15 20:37:20

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

Yet another coin to tie up the Perth Mint machinery.

Mintage 200,000 hmm

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#5 2012-02-15 20:38:06

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

Hmmm

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#6 2012-02-15 20:38:52

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

I think it is a PM product. I can not imagine somebody has 200.000 pcs to destroy with this privy and sell it to a much lower price than a standard BU.

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#7 2012-02-15 20:39:01

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

goldpelican wrote:

Is that a Perth Mint applied privy mark or aftermarket?

Given there is a mintage of 200,000 of them and the plain bullion version was 300,000, pretty sure its a Perth Mint effort.

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#8 2012-02-15 20:39:36

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

goldpelican wrote:

Is that a Perth Mint applied privy mark or aftermarket?

Didn't hobo-jo call it out here? Looks like a perth mint product to me.

http://www.silverlunar.com/2012/02/high … ns-on.html

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#9 2012-02-15 20:42:06

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

rbaggio wrote:

Yet another coin to tie up the Perth Mint machinery.

Mintage 200,000 hmm


^^^ THIS ^^^



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#10 2012-02-15 20:42:32

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

rbaggio wrote:
goldpelican wrote:

Is that a Perth Mint applied privy mark or aftermarket?

Didn't hobo-jo call it out here? Looks like a perth mint product to me.

http://www.silverlunar.com/2012/02/high … ns-on.html

Indeed hobo-jo did call it.  The privy is of a lion it seems.

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#11 2012-02-15 21:17:50

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

Wow was not expecting a mintage of 200,000.

That's BS if accurate.

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#12 2012-02-15 21:21:01

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

This is like history repeating itself.

Privy kooks anyone?

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#13 2012-02-15 21:24:08

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

It could just be a typo... maybe it's only supposed to read 20,000... maybe

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#14 2012-02-15 21:36:41

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

Clearly someone needs to clarify with the Mint the 200k ?  And whats a Lion got to do with anything for it to be the privy ?

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#15 2012-02-15 21:38:23

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

I have asked for clarification on the perth mint blog here:

http://www.perthmintbullion.com/blog/bl … x#comments

... Waiting for the comment to be approved.

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#16 2012-02-15 22:17:24

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

^^^ Guarantee their response will be either:

a) no response OR

b) something cryptic to add to their usual deception with something like "they are made on a mint to order basis with a final mintage released at the end of the series".

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#17 2012-02-15 22:19:54

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

As someone who didnt manage to get any 1oz dragons, I'd sure like some of these...

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#18 2012-02-15 22:21:37

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

Matthew 26:14 wrote:

Clearly someone needs to clarify with the Mint the 200k ?  And whats a Lion got to do with anything for it to be the privy ?

Isnt in chinese culture, lion represents the gatekeeper and the dragon means to be the strongest mythical creature?
So the pair matched?

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#19 2012-02-15 22:22:44

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

Btw wouldnt privy silver coin value higher than normal bu in the market?

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#20 2012-02-15 22:22:50

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

there will soon be more dragons then the 7 billion people on earth

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#21 2012-02-15 22:25:45

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

Lunardragon wrote:

Btw wouldnt privy silver coin value higher than normal bu in the market?

If you cannot create a set with them, I would say .... No.

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#22 2012-02-15 22:29:36

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

dcl wrote:

As someone who didnt manage to get any 1oz dragons, I'd sure like some of these...

As someone who didn't get any 1oz dragons and went through absolute hell on earth, just to place an order for a now worthless rectangle dragon set. I couldn't give a flying fruit cake about dragon releases anymore.

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#23 2012-02-15 22:40:31

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

dcl wrote:

As someone who didnt manage to get any 1oz dragons, I'd sure like some of these...

Yeah but to buy these you are playing into the Perth Mints hands.  Pumping out extra coins that will not hold the premium like the 300k ones that make the set.  The 300k coins are the main game, all the rest are distractions for your money.

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#24 2012-02-16 04:18:37

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

WOW I cant believe the perth mint would circumvent the 300,000 mintage on the 1 oz coins, these look pretty cool but that just seems somewhat dishonest to me . I hope they dont start playing all their fixed mintages this way. Why even have a fixed mintage.

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#25 2012-02-16 05:36:14

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Re: New Dragon - Privy Mark

Looks like the complete number of 200.000 pcs was made and bought by the German Landesbank "Bayern LB"
Made for german market. Bayern is a state in germany and has a lion in his flag. If that´s all true, i think they will
have a lot of work to sell all these dragons. :-) In my opinion it´s not worth to pay 1cent more premium than for a ASE.

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