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#51 2011-12-01 02:29:56

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

Stubiter wrote:

Is this a counterfeit Panda
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http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll … CA:ES:1465

based on the plastic pouch, general appearance and the eye of the panda in the background which looks a bit off I think it is....

I have my doubts about some of his listings as well.

The color is off, the fur is off, there should not be a capsule inside OMP for 2010 etc

Yeah steer clear wink

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#52 2011-12-01 13:16:04

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

I am sure the panda experts get tired of looking at these for us, but we really appreciate it! Is this a real panda..price looks great..seller has magnitude of sales with 100% positive feed back..but the Panda looks terrible. Is it just a bad pic or a fake panda..thanks in advance.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHINA-1989-SILV … 2eb9643165


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#53 2011-12-01 15:20:10

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

Coins4me wrote:

I am sure the panda experts get tired of looking at these for us, but we really appreciate it! Is this a real panda..price looks great..seller has magnitude of sales with 100% positive feed back..but the Panda looks terrible. Is it just a bad pic or a fake panda..thanks in advance.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHINA-1989-SILV … 2eb9643165

Looks a bit suss, the 1989 1oz expo panda looks like this.

So I have no idea wtf that coin is. Don't think it's even a Panda.

Apparently it's a 5oz Panda. But the eBay listing says 1oz so it's not only completely suss, it's completely wrong!

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#54 2011-12-01 15:40:31

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

Even if it's not fake (and it looks very bad), that's a Hong Kong coin, not a Chinese coin.


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#55 2011-12-01 16:53:16

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

tamo42 wrote:

Even if it's not fake (and it looks very bad), that's a Hong Kong coin, not a Chinese coin.

The coin in the eBay listing uses simplified Chinese though, something that Hong Kong coins pre-1997 would and should not be doing.

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#56 2011-12-01 23:08:56

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

Got what I believe are my first two fake pandas. Ebay seller (john112533029) seemed honestly unaware and offered a refund upon receiving them back. Admitted to not being familiar with pandas, so I would avoid buying from again.

Fur is off; details are off; date and yuan marks are off; can't even see the weight/purity stamp; weighs only 27 grams in capsule.

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#57 2011-12-02 00:23:09

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

Looks pretty rough Derrick, I'm glad he was an honourable seller... shame to see haven't seen a listed commemorative coin counterefit til now.


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#58 2011-12-02 00:27:31

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

25Grizzlies wrote:

Looks pretty rough Derrick, I'm glad he was an honourable seller... shame to see haven't seen a listed commemorative coin counterefit til now.

I was disappointed to say the least, but yes, at least he didn't give me a hard time about wanting to send them back for a refund. He said he picked these up at a coin show in Florida a couple years back from a dealer he sees there. Said neither of them deal much in pandas, so I guess they wouldn't know what to look for in a fake. Oh well. No more buying pandas from auctions with crummy photos for me.

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#59 2011-12-17 18:49:14

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

coins.with.equity - is using a grading service called NGA - National Guaranteed Authentication? Have never heard if this grading service? Selling allot of Pandas now just scrolling through and saw them!

I've been buying just from APMEX just because I am scared of getting scammed or verifying through NGC, etc.

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#60 2011-12-17 18:52:43

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

98PandaBear wrote:

coins.with.equity - is using a grading service called NGA - National Guaranteed Authentication? Have never heard if this grading service? Selling allot of Pandas now just scrolling through and saw them!

I've been buying just from APMEX just because I am scared of getting scammed or verifying through NGC, etc.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_NGA_a_reli … ng_company

No, I can't seem to find -any- information on them. I wouldn't buy an NGA slabbed coin unless you felt that the price was right and you can tell (hands on preferably) that the coin meets your specification. Most likely NGA is a front created by a coin dealer to mark up common coins by certifying them as MS-70/69 when in reality they might only grade MS-63/4 by PCGS/NGC. So no, I would not classify NGA as a reliable grading company.

lol

Yeah avoid avoid avoid.

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#61 2011-12-22 07:08:01

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2000-Chinese … 1c22230a4f

This clown has about 10 coins listed at the moment. Photos are the same as on page 1 of this thread.

Read the listing for a bit of a laugh....

(quote) "Note: Item published a limited number of buyers to more agreeable to

get goods to purchase up to 5 per item limit. If you need more love

Contact me!"


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#62 2012-03-13 18:51:05

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-OZ-SILVER-COI … 4ab52052db

This was posted at CCF ... pretty hilarious ! big_smile

A "combo" panda !

2000 obverse & 2003 reverse with a 20 yuan denomination big_smile


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#63 2012-03-13 18:59:25

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

comeaux wrote:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-OZ-SILVER-COI … 4ab52052db

This was posted at CCF ... pretty hilarious ! big_smile

A "combo" panda !

2000 obverse & 2003 reverse with a 20 yuan denomination big_smile

Is that what's called an Arkansas Panda? lol

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#64 2012-03-13 20:23:35

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

2000 obverse, 2003 reverse with a 2004 in the description !

It's a tao all in one coin … the ultimate combo panda … I might even buy it for a conversation piece cool
 
This is a rare bear indeed big_smile


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#65 2012-03-13 22:28:03

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

comeaux wrote:

2000 obverse, 2003 reverse with a 2004 in the description !

It's a tao all in one coin … the ultimate combo panda … I might even buy it for a conversation piece cool
 
This is a rare bear indeed big_smile

I cant stop of laughing. My daughter say to me. Its plata (silver) is a ugly photo for her.

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#66 2012-03-13 23:05:07

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

Thor122 wrote:

I cant stop of laughing. My daughter say to me. Its plata (silver) is a ugly photo for her.

big_smile


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#67 2012-04-25 17:42:10

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

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#68 2012-04-25 17:45:35

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

shibaji wrote:

Well - after comparing pics, I am pretty sure this is fake.

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#69 2012-04-25 17:54:36

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

it does look bad, maybe the panda experts can tell.


Basically, it's a tinfoil hat bonanza that's heavy on hype and short on substance.

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#70 2012-04-25 18:09:24

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨


Go to LiveBusinessChat.com to find out about the latest Chinese coin investment lists.

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#71 2012-05-01 06:04:25

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

When will they ever learn???


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-China-10-Y … 1077wt_966

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#72 2012-05-01 06:11:59

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

SENT SELLER A MESSAGE

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#73 2012-05-01 06:12:37

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

Surely the seller must know it's a bad bear?

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#74 2012-05-01 08:06:40

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

There must be a batch of these because my fake mirror looked like this.


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#75 2012-05-01 08:14:49

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Re: Phoney Pandas 山寨

Yep... it's a common bad bear design... it's called the Ugly 2000 Mirror.

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