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#26 2012-01-16 04:24:25

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Aren't you guys worried about these things irradiating your 'nuggets' ?


Specialisation is for insects

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#27 2012-01-16 04:33:02

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Clawhammer wrote:

Aren't you guys worried about these things irradiating your 'nuggets' ?

Agh Crap WTF now sad LOL

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#28 2012-01-16 05:22:17

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Do you use a mobile? I'd be more worried about that than irradiating my nuggets with a detector haha


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#29 2012-01-16 05:59:01

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Awww me plumbs.... now i'm worried about the phone! big_smile


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#30 2012-01-16 21:22:21

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Austacker wrote:

Great thread guys, a lot of useful information. I was wondering if anyone can give some advice. I am really keen to start having a go at this, for various reasons. I plan to mainly go for coins etc... at this stage. I want to be able to bring the family along on a few outings. I am also thinking that the beach, rivers and other areas here in Perth could be productive. How often I would do this I am not sure. The ability to be able to take anywhere though is pretty appealing.

I normally try to work on the "Buy once, buy well" motto, I think if you are going to do something try to do the best you can. Thinking so far I am only really left with the Garret AT Pro, I have watched a few youtube vids and it seems to be a pretty good detector. I can get locally for about $780

or do I get a  Minelab X-Terra 705 ? This is a bot dearer and doesn't have the full waterproof capabilities of the AT Pro but does come with a waterproofs coils ?

OR

Do I just get a cheaper starter unit like either the - Minelab Xtera 305 $395, Garrett Ace 350 $434, or even one of the little Treasure Snoops for $279. My only dilemma with going this cheaper route, is if I decide to go further and do some exploration trips, which my mate and I are already mapping out. Then I feel the entry level are a bit of a waste of time as they will not be good enough if someone has gone over the ground before.

When we do our trip I am looking at getting a S/H Minelab GPX something... I am hopeful that all of the treasure found will help reduce some of the cost. I reckon it would be handy to have a waterproof detector and one that is good enough as a backup as well, or even a loan for a friend or kid etc...

I don't mind spending the money, but I don't want to just spend for the sake of spending either. At this point I thing the AT Pro is my choice, comments thoughts, please let me know.

So I suppose if anyone has one in Perth they want to do a metal trade ? let me know smile

You are doing the right thing Austacker.....research!

There are two types of detecting - Coin/relic hunting and Gold detecting.

The x-terra's, Garret Ace, Treasure snoops all work for finding coins and relics but IMO are unsuitable for gold prospecting. Most have fairly good discrimination features that are effective and can reduce the amount of junk you dig. Waterproof coils should be all you need for beach detecting unless you are aquaman and hunting for shipwrecks in which case the waterproof machine would be the go. If detecting in wet weather all I do is wrap a plastic shopping bag around the control box to keep the water out. Simple, cheap and effective.

Gold detecting (particularly these days) requires a high end and more expensive machine. The early Minelab pulse induction (PI) models such as the SD 2000, 2100 and 2200 were responsible for some amazing gold finds. These can still be purchased for around $1000 - $2000 depending on condition and accessories provided.

The Minelab GPX series is another step up. You can literally go over previously detected ground and find gold that older models have missed. They are much easier to operate than earlier models because they run a lot smoother and have superior ground balance capabilities.

The minelab PI machines hold their value. This is because the only PI that Minelab currently manufactures and sells is the GPX 5000 which retails for over $6000. The GPX 4000 and 4500 are both great gold hunters and can be bought secondhand privately for between $3000 - $4500. I would recommend one of these (I use a GPX 4500) if you are serious about finding gold. If you are only going to hunt gold for a short period of time you should maybe consider hiring instead of buying.


Disclosure:  Even Barnabas Gan has changed his tune!. Last years legend called gold to be $950/oz by this years end on Jan 28 2016 but now expects $1400. 

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#31 2012-01-16 21:35:40

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

BTW the Minelab PI machines do not have a target ID feature which means you dig a lot more junk. They have a discriminate feature but it is not reliable.

I dig almost everything because my best finds have been sitting next to pieces of junk. Usually thats why it wasnt dug up previously.


Disclosure:  Even Barnabas Gan has changed his tune!. Last years legend called gold to be $950/oz by this years end on Jan 28 2016 but now expects $1400. 

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#32 2012-01-16 21:47:10

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Thanks E.M I am happy with the Minelabs for when I get really serious, but until then I am a little unsure. I don't want to spend over a $1k at this stage which may seem a little counter productive, as I am already half way to s/h Minelab 2200. But like you said get the latest technology, so I think for general fossicking something new and smaller.

So what I am thinking is back to these two models - Garrett AT Pro ($780) or Minelab X-Terra 505 ($650)

I have seen some great vids of the AT Pro just left floating in the water while people have been searching river creeks etc... even on a really flat surf day you could go into the water to search and not worry about it ? I also want something pretty light and one all the family could use on camping trips etc...

My only hesitation is, are the Garrett'ss as good as the Minelab in this range, will they both find similar Gold if I took them as backups for a more serious trip.

Thanks again, hope this is also helping others who are thinking about getting involved.

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#33 2012-01-17 07:44:51

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Cheap machines wont produce gold in high mineralised ground, but you will get sore ears. Having said that its taken me 6 months to learn my 4500. Buy the cheaper machine and try it around Perth. Its not everyones cuppa tea.


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#34 2012-01-17 14:24:59

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

I use an Excalibur Minelab . Perth central  has been raped of it booty IMHO n there is far  more glorious  bounties to be had abroad.


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#35 2012-01-18 04:26:10

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Shameless plug. Selling my GPX 4500.

http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic- … age-2.html


Disclosure:  Even Barnabas Gan has changed his tune!. Last years legend called gold to be $950/oz by this years end on Jan 28 2016 but now expects $1400. 

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#36 2012-01-18 04:31:35

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Thanks for posting your sales link here. I definitely think it is very appropriate. I though can't afford that, nor am in your area.

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#37 2012-01-19 20:51:41

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Am looking to buy a water proof relic type one... along the lines of Minelab Excalibur / Garrett AT Pro

Any other suggestions on what and where to get a new/used one?  TIA


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#38 2012-01-20 04:05:08

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

thatguy wrote:

Am looking to buy a water proof relic type one... along the lines of Minelab Excalibur / Garrett AT Pro

Any other suggestions on what and where to get a new/used one?  TIA

Have you looked at Bris shops? Should be at least a couple around that sell 'em. Trading Post often has secondhand machines. Usually lists phone nums so you can ring and chat. If theres a local detecting club try them. A lot of these type people can usually get you onto some good secondhand machines.

Do your homework if you look at ebay. You might be able to get a better price OS (esp for a Garret) than in Aus. Email or ask to phone and see if you can get a working demo if in your area if you get a secondhand unit.

Both are top brands so go with whichever one you reckon.

Last edited by Eureka Moments (2012-01-20 04:05:49)


Disclosure:  Even Barnabas Gan has changed his tune!. Last years legend called gold to be $950/oz by this years end on Jan 28 2016 but now expects $1400. 

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#39 2012-01-20 08:55:54

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Out of all the brands. Get the best Minelab you can afford. SD 2200 up, if you can afford it. For cupro, Gold, bronze or even Silver, Even the cheapest kids ebay detector will find a patch on the beach surface.  Finding small gold at depth takes a sophisticated machine and the minelab does that better than anyone else and has done for 20 years. with awesome battery life and discrimination and that golden sound. Remember when the wave of gold finds hit in the 80's? Better Depth, is the reason. The only downside is then you have to dig it out further down.

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#40 2012-01-20 08:58:37

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

I got mine from the Brisbane Gold shop... i did struggle to find any other specialty shops in Brisbane.

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#41 2012-01-20 09:10:16

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Philski wrote:

Out of all the brands. Get the best Minelab you can afford. SD 2200 up, if you can afford it. For cupro, Gold, bronze or even Silver, Even the cheapest kids ebay detector will find a patch on the beach surface.  Finding small gold at depth takes a sophisticated machine and the minelab does that better than anyone else and has done for 20 years. with awesome battery life and discrimination and that golden sound. Remember when the wave of gold finds hit in the 80's? Better Depth, is the reason. The only downside is then you have to dig it out further down.

Better penetration in mineralised ground and smoother operation are the biggest advantages of the pulse induction (PI) Minelabs. Generally as you go up through the models they have released their performance and ease of operation improves. The GPX series has fantastic sensitivity to small Gold. Much of what I have found is only 1-2 inches deep so it doesnt mean you are always digging large deep holes.

The coil that is used also makes a difference. Generally speaking larger coils are best for larger and deeper targets. Smaller coils can be worked close to the ground and often find small bits larger coils miss.


Disclosure:  Even Barnabas Gan has changed his tune!. Last years legend called gold to be $950/oz by this years end on Jan 28 2016 but now expects $1400. 

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#42 2012-01-20 13:27:07

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

thatguy wrote:

Am looking to buy a water proof relic type one... along the lines of Minelab Excalibur / Garrett AT Pro

Any other suggestions on what and where to get a new/used one?  TIA

After quite a lot of reading and looking at whats about. I put it into a few categories -

Prospecting - In the bush looking for nuggets etc...

Local Prospecting = Beach, Playgrounds, Parks etc...

If you feel you are going to be 90% more one way than the other I see two different models/ranges.

Prospecting - In the bush looking for nuggets etc... 90% + Then go for a Minelab it appears the 2200 at a minimum. Starting price around $2000 just keeps going up, so how often are you likely to go and how deep are your pockets.

Local Prospecting = Beach, Playgrounds, Parks etc... 90% + I would go for the Garrett AT Pro definitely, I have watched some video of these in the water and it adds a whole new avenue for getting a bit deeper at low tides. Also very good for parks and playgrounds with key features to block out certain mishits like ring pulls and so on. Digital readout. You can get them delivered to Australia via ebay for under $600 I would also get the Garrett Pro Pointer for about $140.

If it was about 50/50 I would go the Minelabs IMHO smile + Garrett Pro Pointer, those things looks awesome can't wait to get one.

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#43 2012-05-07 04:06:20

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

I has bought one last year but mine is a new one and it cost me just near $500 and by now it can works well. and I just bought this one at www.detectorall.com. you may go there and have a look!

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#44 2012-05-07 04:14:39

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Austacker wrote:
thatguy wrote:

Am looking to buy a water proof relic type one... along the lines of Minelab Excalibur / Garrett AT Pro

Any other suggestions on what and where to get a new/used one?  TIA

After quite a lot of reading and looking at whats about. I put it into a few categories -

Prospecting - In the bush looking for nuggets etc...

Local Prospecting = Beach, Playgrounds, Parks etc...

If you feel you are going to be 90% more one way than the other I see two different models/ranges.

Prospecting - In the bush looking for nuggets etc... 90% + Then go for a Minelab it appears the 2200 at a minimum. Starting price around $2000 just keeps going up, so how often are you likely to go and how deep are your pockets.

Local Prospecting = Beach, Playgrounds, Parks etc... 90% + I would go for the Garrett AT Pro definitely, I have watched some video of these in the water and it adds a whole new avenue for getting a bit deeper at low tides. Also very good for parks and playgrounds with key features to block out certain mishits like ring pulls and so on. Digital readout. You can get them delivered to Australia via ebay for under $600 I would also get the Garrett Pro Pointer for about $140.

If it was about 50/50 I would go the Minelabs IMHO smile + Garrett Pro Pointer, those things looks awesome can't wait to get one.

I have a brand new minelab 3000 (I bought about 5 years ago with grand plans). Long story short, "kids + life = still waiting for first trip". So I'll be putting up for sale along with all the extra's (extra battery, signal enhancer, covers etc). PM if any-one interested but reasonable offers please. I'd like to at least get my money back.


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#45 2012-05-07 04:17:49

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Clawhammer wrote:

Aren't you guys worried about these things irradiating your 'nuggets' ?

Do you mean chicken nuggets??? But the instructions on the pack say you can microwave them.


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#46 2012-05-07 06:32:43

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Eureka Moments wrote:
Austacker wrote:

Great thread guys, a lot of useful information. I was wondering if anyone can give some advice. I am really keen to start having a go at this, for various reasons. I plan to mainly go for coins etc... at this stage. I want to be able to bring the family along on a few outings. I am also thinking that the beach, rivers and other areas here in Perth could be productive. How often I would do this I am not sure. The ability to be able to take anywhere though is pretty appealing.

I normally try to work on the "Buy once, buy well" motto, I think if you are going to do something try to do the best you can. Thinking so far I am only really left with the Garret AT Pro, I have watched a few youtube vids and it seems to be a pretty good detector. I can get locally for about $780

or do I get a  Minelab X-Terra 705 ? This is a bot dearer and doesn't have the full waterproof capabilities of the AT Pro but does come with a waterproofs coils ?

OR

Do I just get a cheaper starter unit like either the - Minelab Xtera 305 $395, Garrett Ace 350 $434, or even one of the little Treasure Snoops for $279. My only dilemma with going this cheaper route, is if I decide to go further and do some exploration trips, which my mate and I are already mapping out. Then I feel the entry level are a bit of a waste of time as they will not be good enough if someone has gone over the ground before.

When we do our trip I am looking at getting a S/H Minelab GPX something... I am hopeful that all of the treasure found will help reduce some of the cost. I reckon it would be handy to have a waterproof detector and one that is good enough as a backup as well, or even a loan for a friend or kid etc...

I don't mind spending the money, but I don't want to just spend for the sake of spending either. At this point I thing the AT Pro is my choice, comments thoughts, please let me know.

So I suppose if anyone has one in Perth they want to do a metal trade ? let me know smile

You are doing the right thing Austacker.....research!

There are two types of detecting - Coin/relic hunting and Gold detecting.

The x-terra's, Garret Ace, Treasure snoops all work for finding coins and relics but IMO are unsuitable for gold prospecting. Most have fairly good discrimination features that are effective and can reduce the amount of junk you dig. Waterproof coils should be all you need for beach detecting unless you are aquaman and hunting for shipwrecks in which case the waterproof machine would be the go. If detecting in wet weather all I do is wrap a plastic shopping bag around the control box to keep the water out. Simple, cheap and effective.

Gold detecting (particularly these days) requires a high end and more expensive machine. The early Minelab pulse induction (PI) models such as the SD 2000, 2100 and 2200 were responsible for some amazing gold finds. These can still be purchased for around $1000 - $2000 depending on condition and accessories provided.

The Minelab GPX series is another step up. You can literally go over previously detected ground and find gold that older models have missed. They are much easier to operate than earlier models because they run a lot smoother and have superior ground balance capabilities.

The minelab PI machines hold their value. This is because the only PI that Minelab currently manufactures and sells is the GPX 5000 which retails for over $6000. The GPX 4000 and 4500 are both great gold hunters and can be bought secondhand privately for between $3000 - $4500. I would recommend one of these (I use a GPX 4500) if you are serious about finding gold. If you are only going to hunt gold for a short period of time you should maybe consider hiring instead of buying.


I believe i posted a while back too, im highly into the notion of prospecting.
I often thought about it long before i moved to WA.

Ive currently obtained my miners right, and been breifly looking at topograpic maps to start my new hobbie,
and i dont often give up easily.
A current work mate of mine knew an aboriginal fellow that he worked with, use to go out prospecting out north in the pilbara
just on his RnRs, and ontop of his wage a year, still found roughly 40-60k a year of gold (so he proclaims).

Also i agree with austacker, buy it once, buy it right.... i was looking at 2nd hand Minelab GPX 5000, hearing these are the bee's knees of the
prospecting world. find the price of them around the $5000-$6000 from a couple that have popped up on ebay, gumtree and other classifieds.

I havent looked at hotel prices to stay while prospecting (as opposed to sleeping in the car and wanting a shower, especially in the warmer months),
also considering its quite a drive from perth itself.
What i have also noticed though, is that land plots around say meekatharra and cue are going for 10k!... for 2000ish sqm blocks, if it becomes a permanent hobbie,
even just to setup a water supply (if possible) and park a caravan on it.


Got some mad stackerage going on right tharr...

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#47 2012-08-14 10:02:29

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Have not had  much reason to check this thread out till now ..lots of good nuts and bolts info here ,though.
Anyone have thoughts on the Whites 6000 /DI pro SL ..I have read a little about it on a U.S. detecting forum and a few of them say it is the best analogue type detector produced.Old tech ,but good tech.
Have been given a loaner from a friend and hope to do a bit of coin/relic and gold hunting with it. on a trip to the Cape soon

Any thoughts?


Still loving  silver...especially the toned variety.

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#48 2012-08-14 10:29:08

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

Boyou wrote:

Have not had  much reason to check this thread out till now ..lots of good nuts and bolts info here ,though.
Anyone have thoughts on the Whites 6000 /DI pro SL ..I have read a little about it on a U.S. detecting forum and a few of them say it is the best analogue type detector produced.Old tech ,but good tech.
Have been given a loaner from a friend and hope to do a bit of coin/relic and gold hunting with it. on a trip to the Cape soon

Any thoughts?

Its not about the machine. Its about the bugga behind it.

In the 80's I had a A3b @ Halls Creek, found just as much gold as the 2000's .....Knowing where to detect, lay of the land, knowing the machine like your lover! If you find nothing first trip....is ok

Next you will be a pro.....Bottle tops you will master.  "then you might just get, that 1/2 grammer of yella" ........ You will be hooked for life wink


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#49 2012-08-14 13:08:01

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

You are so right ..I will have to "become" the detector

All very Zen ,really smile


Still loving  silver...especially the toned variety.

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#50 2012-08-14 21:50:20

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Re: Buying a 2nd Hand Metal Detector

In the '80s Whites were considered the best of the available detectors. My mate used a coinmaster 5000 back then and found hundreds of coins and relics with it. No gold but he wasnt chasing it at the time. Nowadays he uses a Minelab GPX4000 which finds gold as small as 0.01 grams.

Ground mineralisation causes issues for the older detectors so they will not find small gold. The Whites 6000 should be great for coins and relics but if you want to hunt for nuggets I would consider hiring a Minelab GPX.

Remember that people have been waving detectors around for over 30 years and finding undetected/unmined ground is not that easy. Top of the range machines allow you to go over previously worked ground and find pieces missed by older detectors. I have only met one detectorist in Victoria who currently uses a (modern) Whites detector to successfully hunt nuggets. Everybody else uses a Minelab.

Doing the 'Zen' thing is important whatever you are using. smile


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