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#1 2017-03-04 20:49:53

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South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

South African president Jacob Zuma has called on lawmakers to help seize white-owned land without compensation - to establish 'pre-colonial' patterns.
But he has been warned that the measure would trigger a racial war in a country historically blighted by racial tensions. 
Speaking to parliament, he called for unity between black parties. The controversial move would require a change to the constitution.

Zuma's comments echo those of his rival Julius Malema, who said earlier this week: 'So, we are saying black people, all of us must unite so that we can change the constitution so that we can expropriate land without compensation.

'There is no white man that will understand it.'

Zuma told the Council of Traditional Leaders: 'The black parties should unite on this issue. We cannot fight about nothing.'
Despite his ANC party having voted down a motion by the opposition EFF, headed by Malema, calling for land expropriation without compensation, Zuma spoke about his great-grandfathers, whose land had been confiscated.
He said: 'It is now time for action. The time for talking, writing and analysis is over.'

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Of course, this was the plan all the way along for Muh Rainbow Nation. The African National Congress is a communist organisation and the usual pattern is playing out now, with all talk of equality merely window dressing for the real motive.

War is sure to follow, should this constitutional amendment take place, either by the corrupt Zuma or Malema's EFF. Presumably pre-colonial patterns will occur, including turning what was once the wealthiest country in Africa into another failed state, followed by tribal wars when the pogroms against the whites run their course.

Where is our Left? Will they accept white refugees? Hell will freeze over first.

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#2 2017-03-04 21:07:22

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

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#3 2017-03-04 21:39:11

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

Reading that article makes me think that Jacob Zuma writes under a pseudonym on Silver Stackers. I am sure I have had colourful discussions with someone like that.

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#4 2017-03-04 21:43:20

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

from an investing perspective, it is useful to be aware of South Africa's mining industry and how this may be impacted by a civil war in South Africa.

Platinum can take up to six months to be refined...

...Platinum mining in South Africa is supported by the country possessing over 80% of the world's platinum group metal reserves. Along with Russia, platinum mining in South Africa produces a total of 90% of the world's platinum demand – which is about 130 tonnes per year (6% of gold production per annum). The Merensky Reef, stretching from southern Zimbabwe through to the Rustenburg and Pretoria regions, is the centre of platinum mining in South Africa, playing host to companies like Rustenburg Platinum Mines and Bafokeng Rasimone Platinum Mines.

Platinum mining in South Africa regards AMPLATS the industry leader in the mining, marketing, and distribution of the precious mineral. Operating within platinum mining in South Africa, as well as other platinum group metals, AMPLATS produces 40% of the world's total platinum group metals. Other key platinum mining in South Africa companies include the likes of BHP Billiton and Impala Platinum.

https://www.projectsiq.co.za/platinum-m … africa.htm

The platinum market at present is useful as a broader benchmark to consider the impact of a disruption to PGM mining in South Africa.

This is from the World Platinum Investment Council

SFA's revised supply and demand forecast has recast the full-year 2016 deficit, scaling it back by 350 koz, to a predicted deficit of 170 koz:

Global demand in 2016 is forecast to decrease by 3 per cent year-on-year to 8,040 koz, while total platinum supply is expected to be marginally lower year-on-year at 7,870 koz.

Total supply is set to be 35 koz lower year-on-year, as lower refined production in South Africa (-230 koz) outweighs an increase in jewellery recycling (+110 koz) related to weaker consumer offtake in China.

http://www.platinuminvestment.com/suppl … -quarterly

The situation for rhodium is even more interesting as total world supply is tiny, a mere 20 tonnes or so. About 80% comes from South Africa.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/592 … by-region/

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#5 2017-03-04 23:25:12

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

They should at least pay compensation.

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#6 2017-03-04 23:50:03

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

Even though platinum is a real precious metal rater than gold, it is priced by industry for purely industrial uses.
It wont really make a big difference to real world.
Sure there would be a shortage for awhile but alternate or more supppy will come on line.

If not the world will just get have to relax about car emission controls. Not a real big deal.


WTB 4 to 6 grams of pure gold. Don't care if it is coin, bar or granules. Near spot, suits anyone who has been tempted to open a certicard or just have some granules to make a ring

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#7 2017-03-05 00:24:18

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

The genocide of the tribes of Africa is a shame of the world.

United Nations.

Pffft!

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#8 2017-03-05 04:27:36

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

JulieW wrote:

The genocide of the tribes of Africa is a shame of the world.

United Nations.

Pffft!

Care to expand on that in detail Julie?

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#9 2017-03-05 04:48:46

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

The Africans have been slaughtering each other on a tribal basis for years. The UN "peace keeping" and "aid" is a dismal failure, yet there has not been a single UN censure of the sale of modern weaponry to the tribes.

Mugabe is a blight on humanity but there is zero international pressure on the regime, but everyone was screaming about apartheid and sanctions back in the day. No such pressure from the UN for the mass murderers running the African states these days. Australia doesn't even question the millions they steal and hide here.



This sums it up:

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#10 2017-03-05 06:59:16

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

Ipv6Ready wrote:

Even though platinum is a real precious metal rater than gold, it is priced by industry for purely industrial uses.
It wont really make a big difference to real world.
Sure there would be a shortage for awhile but alternate or more supppy will come on line.

If not the world will just get have to relax about car emission controls. Not a real big deal.

From the point of view of investing, you might look at times supply was disrupted, for example the Russian palladium supply or PGM in South Africa with power disruption or union activity.

The graph of rhodium is instructive.

Platinum was about 1.5x of its present price and rhodium tenfold

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#11 2017-03-05 07:33:36

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

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South African President P.W. Botha gave Mandela the opportunity to walk out of jail for free if he just renounced the ANC's terrorism. He always refused to renounce terrorism.
..
Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. He had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilizing terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela's MK terrorists–murderers he never, ever renounced.

http://arcticcompass.blogspot.com/2013/ … a-man.html

As leader of the terrorist wing of the ANC/South African Communist Party, Umkhonto we Sizwe, he bears responsibility for the 1983 Church St bombings in Pretoria.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Street_bombing

The person to the side of Mandela is (((Ronny Kasrils))), ex-minister for intelligence services.. Notice the clenched fist of communism. This is a ubiquitous motif. You'll see it everywhere. I saw this on posters in Denpasar not that long ago, in an NHS protest in the UK against ending penalty rates on the weekend (using placards that also protested all the -isms the Left compulsively insert) and SBS tonight on an ad, a clenched fist holding a rainbow, during a doco on Oxford St's Mardi Gras.

The Soviets sincerely targeted South Africa for destabilisation, as they saw it as a key industrial strategic target.

Southern Africa, with its strategic minerals, was a critical prize during the Cold War. Soviet leader Leonid I. Brezhnev had told Somalian President Siad Barre, "Our aim is to gain control of the two great treasure houses on which the West depends—the energy treasure house of the Persian Gulf and the mineral treasure house of Central and Southern Africa."

http://arcticcompass.blogspot.com/2013/ … a-man.html

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#12 2017-03-05 07:42:57

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

Perhaps Brezhnev's disclosure encapsulates the Left's obsession with the narrative of a black victim/white oppressor class struggle and the promotion of Islam.

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#13 2017-03-05 07:52:04

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

So in short...Mandela the oppressed black Islamic Communist terrorist.....That's new!!!!

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#14 2017-03-05 08:05:28

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

And just to illustrate the madness of what the communists have unleashed, here is Julius Malema's school report card. Bear in mind, the main reason that Zuma is openly chanting for expropriation of white owned property is because his party is losing ground to Malema's Economic Freedom Fighters, a radical Leftist and exceptionally racist party, with a platform of racial redistribution of property, from whites to blacks, with no compensation.

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The fact that someone with this capability is powerful enough politically to stimulate Zuma to say what he did in the OP is an indication of what South Africans contend with. It would be laughable if it didn't involve the realities it does.

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#15 2017-03-05 08:28:55

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

Laughable if it weren't so tragic.

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#16 2017-03-05 12:33:54

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

Mandela, Mugabe, Idi Amin,  The Congo, Rwanda, Ethiopia, Sudan...

Can anybody tell me anything good that has ever come out of or about in Southern Africa outside of the success of South Africa and (Rhodesia) Zimbabwe until recent times ? The so called cradle of Humanity, yet by all measures an overall economic basket case dominated by murderous regimes and now prone to the influence of Islamic extremist's, dictators and famine.

I expect it will be a case of blame the colonialist whitey but seriously , outside of the white rule in southern Africa, what has this part of the planet ever contributed to mankind ? Zimbabwe used to be the bread basket of Africa, now look at it.

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#17 2017-03-05 13:25:58

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

The problems related to this issue are:

1) Most people hold double standards

2) Many people conflate terms such as "racism", "anti-Semitism", and "xenophobic"





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In some ways, we are not that different

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#18 2017-03-05 16:21:58

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

The Boer Settlers nor the British Imperialists rarely paid for the land they 'appropriated' from the indigenous African peoples either. roll

They weren't content with just taking land by force, they took people; slavery and forced labour was the norm in the Cape Colony, the Orange Free State and the Transvaal until well into the 19th century.

Don't even get me started on Cecil Rhodes, damn him.


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#19 2017-03-05 17:48:09

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

Roswell Crash Survivor wrote:

The Boer Settlers nor the British Imperialists rarely paid for the land they 'appropriated' from the indigenous African peoples either. roll

They weren't content with just taking land by force, they took people; slavery and forced labour was the norm in the Cape Colony, the Orange Free State and the Transvaal until well into the 19th century.

Don't even get me started on Cecil Rhodes, damn him.



Speaking of taking from people...are you the one who took gold by reneging on your "bet"?  smile

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#20 2017-03-06 00:59:52

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

millededge wrote:

South African president Jacob Zuma has called on lawmakers to help seize white-owned land without compensation - to establish 'pre-colonial' patterns.
But he has been warned that the measure would trigger a racial war in a country historically blighted by racial tensions. 
Speaking to parliament, he called for unity between black parties. The controversial move would require a change to the constitution.

Zuma's comments echo those of his rival Julius Malema, who said earlier this week: 'So, we are saying black people, all of us must unite so that we can change the constitution so that we can expropriate land without compensation.

'There is no white man that will understand it.'

Zuma told the Council of Traditional Leaders: 'The black parties should unite on this issue. We cannot fight about nothing.'
Despite his ANC party having voted down a motion by the opposition EFF, headed by Malema, calling for land expropriation without compensation, Zuma spoke about his great-grandfathers, whose land had been confiscated.
He said: 'It is now time for action. The time for talking, writing and analysis is over.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … z4aPKBRSau
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Of course, this was the plan all the way along for Muh Rainbow Nation. The African National Congress is a communist organisation and the usual pattern is playing out now, with all talk of equality merely window dressing for the real motive.

War is sure to follow, should this constitutional amendment take place, either by the corrupt Zuma or Malema's EFF. Presumably pre-colonial patterns will occur, including turning what was once the wealthiest country in Africa into another failed state, followed by tribal wars when the pogroms against the whites run their course.

Where is our Left? Will they accept white refugees? Hell will freeze over first.

These people will have a harder time immigrating here than a black Apex gang member and their families.

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#21 2017-03-06 01:52:15

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Re: South Africa - fighting racism with...racism

Nothing is new in the world. The strong take from the weak regardless of colour.
In the past, a sword and a gun were used. Now it is a pen.
It was only going to be a matter of time before the bitter fruits of colonialism was going to be harvested.
The scars of apartheid run deep such that there are many in South Africa that demand justice and compensation. Land and resources are always first and foremost.

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