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#1 2017-01-19 20:45:58

leon1998
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Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

The worrying sign came from Silver; which lost the US$17 handle several times. As the long term Gold-to-Silver-Ratio has started trending down, gold price collapse is a no-brainer.   Gold is a hanging man on US$1200 handle. Banksters are desperately looking for bagholders; just take a look at weekly gold COT reports.

By the way, I would recommend buying crude oil futures; since Gold-to-Crude-Ratio is close to historic high, too.

Forget about stacking for 2017.

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#2 2017-01-19 20:56:47

Ronnie 666
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

leon1998 wrote:

The worrying sign came from Silver; which lost the US$17 handle several times. As the long term Gold-to-Silver-Ratio has started trending down, gold price collapse is a no-brainer.   Gold is a hanging man on US$1200 handle. Banksters are desperately looking for bagholders; just take a look at weekly gold COT reports.

By the way, I would recommend buying crude oil futures; since Gold-to-Crude-Ratio is close to historic high, too.

Forget about stacking for 2017.

With record high inventory of crude with increasing production while silver and gold production falls : that sounds  like a cunning plan big_smile

Leon what is next ? sell my kidney as you only need one and there is a shortage big_smile big_smile


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#3 2017-01-19 21:00:04

SpacePete
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

Can we get some causal factors that don't refer to bankster bag holders? Maybe gold will trend down (or up) but hopefully there would be some explicable causal factors we could look to that would go someway to helping us make future predictions.

Otherwise it's all waffle.


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#4 2017-01-19 21:20:09

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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

Ronnie 666 wrote:

Leon what is next ? sell my kidney as you only need one and there is a shortage big_smile big_smile

I"m intending to sell one of my kidneys this year to pay for my sex-change operation.

I'm over living my lesbian life in a male body!


The price we pay for the good life is public servitude.

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#5 2017-01-19 21:23:00

ozcopper
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

How about you sell your physical leon.... Oh I forgot, you don't own any!

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#6 2017-01-19 21:36:18

leon1998
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

You peeps never understand.

Trump is going to devalue the US dollar to revitalize US economy; AUD will appreciate over other currency since Australia is rich in basic metals.
Gold and Silver price in AUD will collapse as a result.

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#7 2017-01-19 21:43:08

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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

leon1998 wrote:

You peeps never understand.

Trump is going to devalue the US dollar to revitalize US economy; AUD will appreciate over other currency since Australia is rich in basic metals.
Gold and Silver price in AUD will collapse as a result.

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#8 2017-01-19 21:51:52

Ipv6Ready
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

leon1998 wrote:

You peeps never understand.

Trump is going to devalue the US dollar to revitalize US economy; AUD will appreciate over other currency since Australia is rich in basic metals.
Gold and Silver price in AUD will collapse as a result.


Dont think do you?

If FED does start to devalue US Dollars, than the institutions will increase their holding in PM by proxy.

What do I mean by proxy, I mean investment managers of ordinary people wealth ie super, managed funds and 401k etc

ie if 0.01% of investors buy 1% PM in their saving as an hedge (bearing in mind as above individual doesn't have to, it will be done by managers on their behalf), dont you think Silver and Gold demand will go up enough to keep pace with AUD?


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#9 2017-01-19 21:57:51

Jislizard
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

I don't think China will like Trump devaluing the US dollar, I think they have a lot of them as a reserve currency.

Still, I will be able to buy stuff from American eBay again so it's not all bad.


Now stacking: World Junk Silver Coins.
Swap your older, worn, dirty fractional silver coins for fiat, .999 rounds or legal tender. 
Individual coins, mixed lots or bulk. 
Not looking for Australian, bent, holed or damaged coins, thanks!

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#10 2017-01-19 21:59:39

leon1998
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

I would rather buy miners in basic metals, instead of precious metals.

When money flows into Australia, most of them will be going for miners of basic metals such as iron, copper and nickel, as a result of industrial demand.

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#11 2017-01-19 22:01:16

spannermonkey
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

leon1998 wrote:

You peeps never understand.

Trump is going to devalue the US dollar to revitalize US economy; AUD will appreciate over other currency since Australia is rich in basic metals.
Gold and Silver price in AUD will collapse as a result.

So you think "EVERYBODY " here doesn't understand lol

Who pays you to drible this utter crap ?

Is this Rene Rivkin's ghost ? lol

Do as I say , don't do as I do wink


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#12 2017-01-19 22:01:45

leon1998
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

Devalue the currency will relieve the pressure of massive US debt load. Trump is a businessman; and he knows what to do.

Jislizard wrote:

I don't think China will like Trump devaluing the US dollar, I think they have a lot of them as a reserve currency.

Still, I will be able to buy stuff from American eBay again so it's not all bad.

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#13 2017-01-19 22:02:36

leon1998
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

Take a look at AUD vs USD, it has been climbing up for a while.

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#14 2017-01-19 22:30:56

Ipv6Ready
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

leon1998 wrote:

Take a look at AUD vs USD, it has been climbing up for a while.


I look at currency everyday, in fact vast majority of my assets are in US.


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#15 2017-01-19 22:34:11

leo25
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

leon1998 wrote:

You peeps never understand.

Trump is going to devalue the US dollar to revitalize US economy; AUD will appreciate over other currency since Australia is rich in basic metals.
Gold and Silver price in AUD will collapse as a result.

this coming from the person who said this lol

leon1998 wrote:

After Hillary takes White House, you know what will happen to precious metals.

Whoever believes Trump can win, is just an idiot.

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#16 2017-01-19 22:42:46

alor
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

you can have as much cash for 0% from many lender like Fed

better alternative to raise some trillion Zim dollars smile


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#17 2017-01-22 23:44:11

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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

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#18 2017-02-08 20:51:05

SpacePete
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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

leon1998 wrote:

You peeps never understand.

Us dumb peeps are still trying to understand why gold hasn't collapsed despite the enlightened predictions of its imminent demise.


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#19 2017-02-12 14:11:12

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Re: Time to sell your physical and raise some cash

It wouldn't surprise me if Trump would devalue the dollar as a next monetary planning step.
That's just the anti speculation - strategy that central planning performs since 5 decades.
Goal is to keep currency values (all of the cooperating governments) within certain limits.
A first modern times - example case was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_in_the_tunnel
Essentially this is a "degree" of (one could say a disguised) pegging several currencies together.
The current situation is:
- dollar on a 15 years high http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=DX&p=m1
- euro on a 15 years low http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=6E&p=m1
- yen on a 20 years low http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=6J&p=m1
- british pound on a 15 years low http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=6B&p=m1
Seen from this strategy, a near future (within Trumps term) dollar devaluation would be what is just to expect.
And also current situation: stock markets on decades record highs.
To me, it all looks like a Donald Trump-term "crisis" is what to expect.
Speculators try to avoid the currencies-based theft by the central planning and its interest groups.
We, are speculators, and those are our "enemies".
So, trying to see things from an enemies perspective, could be quite helpful in beating them.
Those that expect Trump to be different, may quite be disappointed.
They all talked about changes and they all made promises.
None held them, and they all were handed excuses to not do so.
It's a classical trick: one government entity blaming another government entity blocking it as an excuse for the promised to not happen.
They all say to oppose eachother. State divisions as well as political parties.
Yet, after elections they all did and will continue the same as they before elections so-called opposed, rendering the opposing to a played soap.

Imagine this had been Obama's second term, From aboves perspective, a same dollar devaluation would take place.
Also, it doesn't need an actual devaluation (as a direct measure) to change the dollars value, just some US side crisis triggering, It's dead easy for the central planning to orchestrate a crisis as a method to make owners of US denominated value assets, concern and flee to the bogus alternative sides, and just another decade(s) cycle will start.
All geared towards making currency owners lose part of their savings value, so that their in the future competing purchasing power waters away, allowing the central planning to maintain their studied inflation targets.
Cash may be king, but the kings term tends to be very short, and one need to be very lucky to frontrun the frontruns of the central planning and their interest groups' entities, that have big data avail at their hands.
Again current situation: which speculation allowing - market isn't frontrunned at the moment?
Can't see many.
Since a couple years, I collect secondhand stuff at giveaway prices. Costs me alot of time and work and will take alot further work to sell again, but the easiest things in life tend to come at a hefty cost. Especially true the zero sum situations that alot markets are these times.
About gold, all it takes to brings its price down, is some of worlds governments to switch back to net selling.
And they will do so as soon as their data indicates that their major enemies, speculators, prominently sell their 'physical', as to inflict them less dollars just like they inflicted speculators less ounces when they bought.

It's all a matter of ...  time.


Silver won't save you if you act as clueless and careless as with your bank account.
Get in- not disinformed. Last is easiest, visit www.zerohedge.com & Co and hurry to their bullion shops.
Futures: http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic- … ilver.html #9
Central Banks inflict you less gold and fiat: http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic- … tners.html #19

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